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Cops Try To Hit Illinois Man With 15 Year Jail Sentence For
Recording Traffic Stop

Despite clear legal precedent, nationwide hoax that it is illegal to film
cops prevails

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday,
September 29, 2011

Cops arrested an Illinois man and tried to hit him with a 15-year jail
sentence for “eavesdropping” after the man filmed his own traffic stop, in
another example of how citizens are being intimidated out of documenting the
actions of public servants despite every single case against Americans for
recording police officers being thrown out of court.

“I’m just an ordinary citizen. I was on my way to the movies, and
all of a sudden I’m facing a felony and 15 years in prison,”
Frobe told ABC7.

Convinced that he had been stopped unfairly because he was not in
a 35-mile-an-hour zone, Frobe used his flip camera to record the incident in
Lindenhurst, before being arrested on “eavesdropping charges”.

Officer: “That recording? Frobe : “Yes, Yes, I’ve been… Officer:
“Was it recording all of our conversation? Frobe: “Yes. Officer: “Guess what?
You were eavesdropping on our conversation. I did not give you permission to do
so. Step out of the vehicle.”

“I was terrified. I was absolutely terrified. I was begging him, I
said I didn’t know about this law. Would you please take the camera – this is no
big deal – and smash it. You know I didn’t know about the law,” Frobe told
ABC7.

“And they had audio and they had video on me, but I’m not allowed
to do it to them. I’m in a private car on a public street and it’s a public
official. Why shouldn’t I be able to record what’s going on to prove my
innocence?” he said.

After spending a night in jail, Frobe was released the next day
and all charges against him were dropped. However, Frobe has decided to file a
federal lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the law, an effort the
Attorney General’s office has dismissed, but legal precedent clearly indicates
that Frobe will win the case.

The Illinois eavesdropping law has been proven unconstitutional
time and time again, and yet police in the state and other states around the
country with even less strict laws are still arresting citizens for filming
police officers. There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place
– that’s why police are allowed to film citizens from dashboard cameras.
However, citizens are still being told they have less rights than
public servants.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

“It’s a public conversation about a public function. A traffic
stop,” attorney Torri Hamilton said.

“He has no reasonable expectation that his conversation with Louis is
private, and so therefore it shouldn’t be criminal to record it,” said
Hamilton.

That stance has been backed up by court rulings over and over again, most
recently in the case of Michael
Allison, the 41-year old Illinois mechanic who faced life in jail for
recording police officers. Despite aggressive efforts by the state to secure a
prosecution, Circuit Court Judge David Frankland ruled that Allison’s First
Amendment rights had been violated, that the eavesdropping law was
unconstitutional, and dropped the case.

Frankland’s decision followed a First
Circuit Court of Appeals ruling which found that, “The filming of government
officials engaged in their duties in a public place, including police officers
performing their responsibilities, fits comfortably within these principles [of
protected First Amendment activity].”

Indeed, every similar case nationwide has concluded in all charges being
dropped against the defendant. It is not illegal to film police officers in
public.

Despite these rulings, we seem to have entered some kind of twilight zone
where legal precedent no longer has any meaning. This is the true measure of a
predatory police state. Cops are still being trained by their superiors that
recording police officers is a criminal offense.

It’s time to put an end to the hoax once and for all – it’s going
to take a deluge of lawsuits like that being pursued by Louis Frobe to finally
teach law enforcement bodies in America that citizens will not have their First
Amendment rights trampled. Filming police officers is not a crime and cops who
arrest Americans for doing so will be sued personally.

*********************

Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order
Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.

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45 Responses to “Cops Try To Hit Illinois Man With 15 Year Jail
Sentence For Recording Traffic Stop”

mikeoxstiff says:

September
29, 2011 at 3:59 am

You may live in a brutal police state but at least you have nice teeth

Quantummonkeybutt Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 5:58 am

“…’And they had audio and they had video on me, but I’m NOT allowed to do
it to them. I’m in a private car on a public street and it’s a public
official. Why shouldn’t I be able to record what’s going on to prove my
innocence?’ he said.”

Yeah Officer Monkey Boy…

Can You Answer That One???

You’re Lucky, Frobe…Too Bad I Couldn’t Afford A Real Lawyer When ‘They’
Came After Me And No Video Was Allowed In My Defense…

My Public Defender Did A Great Job Though; Of Helping The Prosecution.
:/

QMB
convicted

Bacchus Reply:
September 29th,
2011 at 7:18 am

To an illegal alien, good teeth in exchange for a few years in prison makes
sense. It sure bets living in a cardboard box in Mexico. Throw in free health
care, education and vocational training, 3 meals a day and they can write home
to family they are tasting the good life in America…….al this for preying on
the gingos……What a country.

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Evildick11 says:

September
29, 2011 at 4:12 am

I know this guy was scared but for people like myself( who use to be a
probation officer that knows the ins and outs), i think citizens need to start
defending themselves against such a conspicuious false arrests(kidnapping).
The options are demand his supervisor, calling a separate police agency in, or
defending yourself and taking down the cops and cuff him. The latter might
seem extreme but you do have the right to defend yourself against false arrest
period. I admit I am one of the few elite citizens who would apply the latter.
Most people are cowards and sheeple.

Look at the protests in New York. The shut down Wall Street crowd of
protesters are being tazered, pepper strayed, tear gased, assulted, and falsly
arrested. These people need to gang up and take on tne cops toe to toe. The
cops will back off if enough of the protesters stand their ground in a large
enough group. Do not fear the guns. The cops have rules that prevent them from
using them in that situation.

raven1967 Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 5:10 am

If you try to take down an armed officer during a traffic stop, you will
probably end up dead !! No matter how tuff you are, they are also trained for
combat and they have the weapons….come on, buddy. That is crazy talk ,although
I would agree if your in a large group

AjariBonten Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 6:47 am

Its also exactly what THEY want. It’s the only reason for their obvious
provocations that makes any sense. The are trying to incite violence so that
they have a veil of excuse to further clamp down on speech.

Mortarion89 Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 8:12 am

well….honestly then, learn combat. i practice mma. so id like to see a cop
take me down. but ajaribonten is correct. that is exactly what they want. so
they can elevate force. so damned if you do and damned if you dont

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:17 am

However, giving in to a bully’s demands is the SURE WAY to lose!

There are some of us who have more “combat training” than the average
‘police officer’ anyway!

So what’s the difference???

Do you stand your ground, or cave in to the presence of a psychopathic
bully???

Your choice, really!

Philippe Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 8:13 am

Yeah, just go along little sheep…

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jeffydiver says:

September
29, 2011 at 4:39 am

Yeah, I agree.

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Willie says:

September
29, 2011 at 4:54 am

Why are the cops so afraid of having their interactions and conversations
with the public recorded? It wouldn’t be because they might have something to
hide would it?

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touvelle says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:03 am

We all need to file lawsuits everytime we’re unjustly arresed for
something. My business taxes pay for those crooked cops to do whatever they
want. Pull a gun on me and threaten me and I’ll be making more than one phone
call when I get to jail. One to a lawyer another to some shady friends.

When the people fear the goverment there is tyranny; When the goverment
fears the people there is liberty. – Thomas Jefferson

Matzo Man Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 6:15 am

Yes, lawsuits should be filed in EVERY case. There are lots of lawyers out
there who do this routinely. Going to trial is no problem for them.

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:18 am

When THAT fails,

There’s the good, old-fashioned “friend of a friend” deal !!!

You know what I mean ? ? ? ? ?

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Dario says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:13 am

Wikipedia: Eavesdropping is the act of secretly listening to the private
conversation of others without their consent, as defined by Black’s Law
Dictionary.

Can anyone explain to me how you can eavesdrop on your OWN
conversation?

raven1967 Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 5:51 am

Thank you…that is pretty clear, we need to all stand up to this B.S. They
know this stuff won’t stand up in court, but they figure eventually the
sheeple will conform to their will. Un less of course if they start being sued
and prosecuted for these false arrests and intimidation tactics !!!

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:19 am

That was my thoughts also!

If you are party to the exchange, then it couldn’t be legally termed
“eavesdropping” anyway!

Good observation nonetheless!

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raven1967 says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:13 am

I always thought eavesdropping was when somebody outside of a conversation
was listening in on it…not somebody who is a participant in the conversation.
If you are in the conversation how is that eavesdropping….gonna have to look
up the definition

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:20 am

That’s CORRECT!!!

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mp3andy says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:29 am

In Ventura County, California, DA Greg Totten let’s cops secretly record
lawyers inside DA’s offices when they have meetings with their clients….it’s
ongoing and he has no plans to stop it

raven1967 Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 5:53 am

Now that would be eavesdropping !!! Finally a case they can prosecute

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:21 am

That’s also a complete violation of “client confidentiality rules”!!!

I guess the State Bar Association also sees no problems
here!

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Hefsmaster says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:42 am

Call wisconsin judge Patrick j feidler… Tell him how you feel.
608-266-4325

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notoriouskelly says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:53 am

They win in the courts.

Justice is in the street.

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:21 am

It WILL come to that soon enough!

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Matzo Man says:

September
29, 2011 at 5:56 am

How is it that they can record you but you cannot record them?
I would
think that all recordings of public acts should be welcome, right?

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:22 am

You would think so!

But they think they “call the shots”!

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frontline says:

September
29, 2011 at 6:04 am

you easy to tell in a lot of ways when its obvious thar the gov is against
the people by making discissions that only stips rights from the people they
represent ….and give unaccountability to the people in power ….you have to be
moraly flawed to find anything but nazi tactics of law and control with
complete unaccountability of any challenged unless consented to by nazi thug
puppet againstr the people …that record you to there highest of tecknology
availibable without any challenge what so ever…..nothing american here at
all…

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Stu says:

September
29, 2011 at 6:42 am

Maybe we all need to record all traffic stops, and that will say something.
Also, he said his recorder was smashed. That there is illegal, and well, the
police officer should have to be reprimanded for that.

AjariBonten Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 6:51 am

actually, you miss-read the article. It was a quote from the victim,
telling the cop to take it and smash it so the recording would not exist.

“”" Would you please take the camera – this is no big deal – and smash it.
You know I didn’t know about the law, ””"

Not that it makes any difference; but just for the sake of clarification
…..

AjariBonten Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 6:51 am

Also ot could be quoted as “”" Baaa Baaa, BAAAAAAAAAAAAAA”"”

Dragon's Eye Reply:
September 29th, 2011 at 9:24 am

Now, now!

Be nice!

Didn’t know that we were supposed to be kind to animals!!!

( P.E.T.A. would be VERY offended! )

*** ROTF-LOL-TMGH ! ! ! ! ! ***

>;=)9)====

medicmike Reply:
September
29th, 2011 at 9:02 am

a law suit for property damage would be on my list if i were him

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ConcernedSenior says:

September
29, 2011 at 6:55 am

F*** the pigs, they’re nothing but Nazis.

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Sam_Wheat says:

September
29, 2011 at 7:10 am

A-weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!

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RealityBase says:

September
29, 2011 at 7:51 am

Seems like the smartest thing would be to hide the camera and if a
violation have proof,(and back that up a couple of times) and then lawyer up
and go for it. Charge the cop personally for a crime too.

Vic Reply:
September 29th,
2011 at 8:21 am

people ned to stay low profile and accumulate the proof. There is nothing
they can do about that.

But when you play the game of arrogance with these criminals, you must
expect to be pointed as the idiot and terrorist?????

dispite all that: 9/11 was an inside job no matter what the NWO hypocrits
say.

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NoSo says:

September
29, 2011 at 7:59 am

As long as police have nothing to lose with this kind of activity it will
continue at tax payer’s expense. The man was dumb to let the cop know he was
being recorded. That was just plain stupid.

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Vic says:

September
29, 2011 at 8:19 am

The more evil manifests itself, the more people will eventualy wake up.

they are now so ridiculous and this late news post just shows to what point
this madness has reached.

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V-man Mace says:

September
29, 2011 at 8:52 am

You point that camera right at that Nazi’s face and SHOOT, soldier!

It’s your DUTY to shoot cameras in these Nazis’ face and post the
video!

RESIST THE NAZI POLICE STATE!

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medicmike says:

September
29, 2011 at 9:01 am

i would point out cellphones ipads computers etc record audio without
permission in private so why is public a issue

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touvelle says:

September
29, 2011 at 9:17 am

I have cameras in my business. Why can’t I have cameras in truck. It’s part
of the business.

What’s to keep a cop from planting drugs in your car or turning in such a
way so it looks like you hit him. Camera is your only defense.

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Mark says:

September
29, 2011 at 9:20 am

Just tell the cop that you don’t understand what he is saying. Tell him
you’re not in his jurisdiction and that no crime has been committed. Then
remind him it’s a crime to falsely claim an emergency when there is no
emergency and ask him if you are free to go or you are being detained. Tell
him that your time is valuable and if he needs a buddy to talk to you will
charge him a million dollars an hour. Remind him that it would be cheaper for
him to go to a bath house if he’s looking for company. If you are being
detained make sure to tell them you are under duress and that they will be
charged with assault and for wasting your time.

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kat says:

September
29, 2011 at 9:28 am

Illinois is a bad state , i will not go across into the state , bad cops ,
corrupt system period . Taxes are 20 times higher over there on property . My
advice , don’t live or go there .

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Dragon's
Eye says:

September
29, 2011 at 9:29 am

What we need, is an ARMY of videocams and folks who know how to expertly
use them!!!

Screw the NEO-NAZIFIED ‘POLICE’-STATE !!!

” In your face, TYRANNY! “

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